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Old Mar 22, 2009, 07:39 AM // 07:39   #1
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Default Need advice for a Domination staff.

Goodmorning fellow mesmers,

I like Domination very much, but i dont really know what is the best domination staff. What mods need to be on it?

Do you guys know a weapon that you can prefer me?

What is the best domination staff if you can spend 60k on it?

I aint really a mesmer specialist, thats the way i ask it to you guys.

I hope that you guys can help me.

Greetings,

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Old Mar 22, 2009, 08:51 AM // 08:51   #2
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About the mods:

It depends on your own preference.

Since Inspiration usually provides effective e-management to regular Domination bars, you might want to focus on bonuses on Skill Recharge and Casting Time. In this case, I'd opt for a 20/20, or even a 40/40, wand+focus set, instead of a staff.

If you really want to stick on staves, something like this could do:

The Trickster

Personally, in regular PvE I tend to run bars with quite high FC levels, such as 12+1+1 Domination, 12 Fast Casting, 3 Inspiration. When I go for it, most of my e-management comes from Energy Tap and Leech Signet, which both work well even with so little points spent in Inspiration. Since Casting Time is more than halved by Fast Casting itself, I really have little use for HCT. In this case I use a +5^50 staff with +20 energy overall.

So, you decide. If e-management is not a problem with your bars, go for HCT. If you spend most of your spare points into Fast Casting, you might want to squeeze that little more Energy from your staff. In that case, go for a +20e Staff.

About the looks:

You really don't have much freedom of choice. Most of the universal skins only come with Inspiration requirement. So, you're really limited to:

Ensorcelling Staff
Clairvoyant Staff
Inscribed Staff

None of these is particularly rare or expensive. If you don't like any of those, you might want to try some of the universal skins, but those usually don't come with both an Inscription Slot and a Domination Magic requirement, unless you go for craftable/collector items (Deldrimor/Destroyer/Tormented/BMP)

If you run 9+ Fast Casting, you also have a couple more options:

Aureate Staff
Arcane Staff

So, it's really up to you and your preferences about both the looks and the upgrades. You can try a few settings and choose the one you like best.

Good luck!

Last edited by Gill Halendt; Mar 22, 2009 at 09:04 AM // 09:04.. Reason: lol fixed a few typos
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Old Mar 22, 2009, 09:15 AM // 09:15   #3
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Is there a reason why you'd go for a staff?
Looks?
In which case - I am still rooting for the Kaolin Domination Staff. So pretty!

A staff would be a jack of all trades - master of none.
And that is why - I'd go for a 40/40 wand/offhand as your primary set and a +5/+60 spear/shield combo as your secondary.
If you want just one - 40/40 set.

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Personally, in regular PvE I tend to run bars with quite high FC levels, such as 12+1+1 Domination, 12 Fast Casting, 3 Inspiration. When I go for it, most of my e-management comes from Energy Tap and Leech Signet, which both work well even with so little points spent in Inspiration. Since Casting Time is more than halved by Fast Casting itself, I really have little use for HCT. In this case I use a +5^50 staff with +20 energy overall.
I've been running these stats lately:

Domination major rune, when you switch to a +60 set you should still reach 600.
You have high FC (just two levels lower then yours), same level of dom and you could still pump up inspiration to 11!
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Old Mar 22, 2009, 09:32 AM // 09:32   #4
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I've been running these stats lately
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I change my bars often, so that was really the outmost example

BTW, Luxon armor looks so cool on your mesmer...
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Old Mar 22, 2009, 09:44 AM // 09:44   #5
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BTW, Luxon armor looks so cool on your mesmer...
Why thank you kind sir!
I remember seeing it at the Factions preview event and I fell in love with it and loved it eversince.
Plus my mesmers end up looking a bit scruffy and the armour just suits that look perfectly!
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Old Mar 22, 2009, 03:59 PM // 15:59   #6
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40/40 wand+foci for main atribute.

+60/+5e spear+shield.

20% recharge/10% fastercasting staff.
(mine is a re9 embercrest with 20% fastercasting inspiration and a 20% enchant mod, good for abusing pve skills and for when i need to use enchants )

dual 15/-1 high set, with 10/10 mods.

Pve sets i usually use.

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Old Mar 23, 2009, 10:17 AM // 10:17   #7
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as a PvE Dom Mesmer you probably dont use enchantments, so 20% enchant is out of the question. I expect FC to be high so HCT isnt neccessary but nonetheless always helpful. 20% +1 attribute isnt very useful for a Dom Mesmer Imho so that's also out. HSR is really what you're looking for. extra energy is always nice, if you have room for it.
now with these mods in mind, you're aiming at hopefuly 40% HSR on a standard dom bar, this can be achieved either with a staff(40/20/+5) or wand+off hand(whatever other mods). this is assuming of course that you only want to use 1 weapon set and not bother yourself with weapon switching, which is a must for PvP but not really neccessary for PvE...

as for the price, unless you're aiming for like Tormented/Destroyer Staff there's no reason you'll need as much as 60k. if you just want the mods you can get very cheap crafter weapons with the mods you want. if you're also for the looks(aka skin) than gill covered your options pretty well for staves, wands and off hands will have more options I think.
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Old Mar 23, 2009, 04:25 PM // 16:25   #8
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Hmm, i've readed a lots of advice you guys gave me. I thank you for that.

I think i can use the information (otherwise i wont ask it ).

But i've readed:"Why it need to be a staff?".
Now here is my answer:

I've never seen a nice looking 40/40 set on a mesmer or with spear etc.
I like a staff the most. Thats the reason


Thank you again for your advice!
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Old Mar 24, 2009, 10:04 AM // 10:04   #9
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My pve mesmer uses a lot of pve spells and a more diverse bar in pvp, so usually the flat 20% HSR on a staff is nice, with insightful and +5 >50 or double 10% HCT all in the head and insc(same as a universal 10/10 wand/ofhand but with better odds on the HSR)

Also these are pretty for domination magic, and cheap: http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gemstone_Staff

these too: http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lotus_Staff
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Old Mar 25, 2009, 02:31 AM // 02:31   #10
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I would have to agree with maxxfury, I also run:

1. 40/40 wand+foci for main atribute: - Dom is: Wingstorm & either Hanaku's Focus or The Mindsquall, Insp is: Bogroot Rod & Droknar's Inspiration Focus.


2. Shield/Spear set: +30 Shield with perfect inscribed "Luck of the Draw" Received physical damage -5-20% & +30 Spear perfect inscribed "I have the power!" Energy +5

3. Dual 15/-1 High set: - Dom/Fast is: Yammirvu's Scepter & Mohby's Artifact

4. Last Slot is a high energy unlinked spell recharge for PvE only skills such as Inspired Ghostly Staff (Inspiration, nice skin).
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Old Mar 25, 2009, 08:48 AM // 08:48   #11
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Personally, in regular PvE I tend to run bars with quite high FC levels, such as 12+1+1 Domination, 12 Fast Casting, 3 Inspiration.
A note on Fast Casting.

FC is a primary atribute which provides "diminishing returns" the more you invest in it.

Quite honestly, you're better off with 8 or 9 Fast Casting, and bumping Inspiration up, rather than investing many points topping FC up to 12 and getting such little return for it.

I suppose the only exception I can think of to the above is [[Mantra of Recovery] where, because you're using a skill from the Fast Casting line, higher investment in FC actually gives you a greater benefit. This is not the same for all FC skills, however. [[Power Return] is often used as a quick-recharging interrupt from FC, but given the state of play in PvE, there is very little point in investing in FC purely for Power Return.
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Old Mar 25, 2009, 01:07 PM // 13:07   #12
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Domination skills by nature balance their high power with cast time and recharge. As a mesmer, you have FC, so your absolute priority in weapon sets is getting recharge times cut to maximize power. 40/40 wand/focus is highly recommended, or as close as possible through your choice of weapon. Extra energy is only marginally useful as you'll likely have Inspiration helping in that area.
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Old Mar 26, 2009, 10:29 PM // 22:29   #13
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40/40 set is the way to go, if you have energy problems you need to practise interrupting more.
i got an platinum wand and celes compass, but those can be quite expensive.
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